How hard would it be for a modern soldier to fight in World War II with period tactics, weapons, etc

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  1. J.T. Woody

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    Justice League had a few episodes where Vandal Savage transported the League back in time to WWII and Green Lantern's ring ran out of juice. So he became just another soldier fighting along with troops of that era, donning the uniform and using the weapons of the time.
    Of course, it was an alt history since Vandal Savage was the new Hitler and brought with him all his tech. but the soldiers John/Lantern was fighting with had weapons appropriate to the period.


    sorry, this just made me think of that.
     
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    A bit tangential but future tech is not always better. Consider aircraft for a moment, the fuel used has changed, so there would be technical issues fueling a modern jet in WWII. Ordinance would be limited, and beyond the ability to produce back then. Then there is the question of a heat seeking missile, would a prop plane of the time generate enough heat to meet the threshold for a target lock? A line of thought about the limitations of even knowledge being brought back, that may not function as intended.
     
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    ... switching to guns.

    (Do the 5th gen fighters even have guns anymore?)
     
  4. Le Panda Du Mal

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    Yes, except the J-20.

    Granted, the likelihood of an aerial dogfight nowadays between 5th gen fighters is pretty much nil, but flyboy ace fantasies will never die in the world's top airforces (except, I guess, the PLAAF).
     
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  5. Homer Potvin

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    Hey, you never know when you've expended all ordinance and still need to strafe a column of tanks.
     
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    It is partly for air support, they can put down a strafing run a lot closer to friendlies than they can a 500lb bomb

    if you read accounts of combat in Afghanistan or Iraq there is a lot of f15, 16s tornados , mirages, harriers etc running strafes of 20mm to deter insurgent hugging attacks
     
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    If you're able to get that close without getting swatted by SAMs, that tank column has probably been reduced to wreckage by drones and artillery by the time you get there. At least that's what seems to happen whenever someone tries to mass tank formations in Ukraine.
     
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    He'd probably do pretty well.

    Second World War tactics are basically simpler versions of modern tactics in many ways and a properly trained infantryman would have no trouble adapting to the lack of fancy gadgets- infantry fighting in a full-on war still boils down to jumping in a trench and shooting and/or bayoneting someone. It was like that in my day and my grandfather's day. The bells and whistles to get you there just got fancier.

    The size and weight of SMLE compared to the L-85A3 may be an unpleasant surprise, though, as well as the slow rate of fire of a bolt action service rifle.
     
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    Sorry for being late, but the F4 Phantom (1958 or so) was originally designed w/o guns. Practical combat brought them to later versions.
     
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    In vietnam the early F4s had a thing the pilots called 'the pistol' which was an undermounted cannon that went on one of the missile stations to retro fit gun availablity.

    This was particularly important because early run Sparrow missiles (radar) were incredibly unreliable, for a while it was SOP to fire two at a time in the hope that one would work. Also early run Sidewinders (heatseeker) didn't have 'any angle' capability so they were only really useful for attacks from the rear.

    Those two things together mean that in a dog fight guns were the only realistic option for head on engagements with other fighter craft
     
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    Yes. They might have had trouble 40 years ago, but modern IR missiles can track any heat signature, including air friction on the leading edge of the wings. Heck. if the seeker head is dark enough, they can even pick up a small flashlight.
     

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