AJ's Top Ten Craziest Quotes: Christianity

By Alesia · Apr 6, 2014 · ·
  1. http://www.liberalamerica.org/2013/09/28/10-crazy-christian-quotes-you-may-not-have-heard/

    This is a transcript of a recent blog entry posted on Liberalamerica.com. As a member of the church for nearly thirty years, I thought I'd share my thoughts on a few of these quotes.

    EDIT: Please note that I am not posting these quotes as a direct bash against Christianity as a whole. Quotes such as these are representative of the insanity I grew up on, and I'm posting them simply as a primer for future posts on my life in the church.

    1.) “When the temptation to masturbate is strong, yell “Stop!” to those thoughts as loudly as you can in your mind. Then recite a portion of the Bible or sing a hymn.” –Mormon Guide to Self-Control

    This is absolute nonsense. Believe it or not, masterbation is one of the few topics that the Bible never mentions. That's right! The act is never specifically condoned nor condemned. Biblically speaking it's what you think about, not what you do that constitutes the sin. In other words, it's the lustful thoughts that accompany the act, not the act itself. In my honest opinion, masterbation is a perfectly healthy, and natural act -- repressing the urge to this degree will actually lead you INTO sexual sin, not out of it. FACT: The longer one goes without fulfilling sexual desire, the frequency of lustful thoughts entering their mind increases. I believe that if humans were truly created in God's image, then he created them with the desire to masterbate. The fact that he does not mention it specifically leads me to believe that he doesn't take issue with it.

    2.) “We don’t have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand.” –James Watt, Secretary of the Interior during the Reagan years.

    Honestly? "Jesus is coming back at any minute" is an excuse to destroy the planet? Sounds reasonable to me! If I remember correctly, there was a story in the Bible (I forget which book/chapter) wherein a group of men sat about day and night waiting on the rapture. These men were condemned as fools and told to go on with their lives. Jesus said: "For no man knows the day or the hour." He tells us that we aren't supposed to destroy the planet or cease caring about life as a whole simply because His coming may be upon us. It could be now, or it could be a thousand years from now. It's not for US to worry about!

    3.) “I called to buy some meth, but I threw it away.” —Rev. Ted Haggard, when details began to emerge about his visits to a male prostitute, in 2006.

    This one is proof positive that nine-times-out-of-ten the person behind the pulpit that is calling you a "sinner" every week is a bigger sinner than you.

    4.) Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free. –Pat Buchanan

    Hmmm. Okay, you could argue that because our founding fathers had faith in God that he blessed our country to economic superiority. But you could also argue that the Chinese, who were Buddhists, were also blessed by their deity seeing that they were prosperous long before America was founded. Or what about the Greeks and Romans with their legions of deities? Or the Egyptians? Or the Babylonians? Every period of history has had its economic superpowers and superior cultures. The fact that your country is on top at the moment doesn't necessarily mean anything in the spiritual realm.

    5.) “This Christmas I want you to do the most loving thing and I want you to buy each of your children an SKS rifle and 500 rounds of ammunition.” —A speaker at the 1995 convention of the U.S. Taxpayers Party. A few months later, Dobson endorsed their candidate for president, Howard Phillips.

    So let me get this straight: as a token of love and appreciation, we are supposed to provide our children with a high-powered implement of death and destruction? Where in the Bible does it say that? I thought in the ten commandments God told us NOT to commit murder. Taking that into consideration, why on earth would your kids need an assault rifle with 500 rounds of ammunition? Who are they planning to kill? And more importantly, Mr. Dobson, who are you asking them to kill?

    6.) “Kids today are looking for something to die for… If you give them something to die for, they’ll go to the edge of the earth for you.” —James Dobson’s son Ryan, in 2005. His book, 2Die4 : The Dangerous Truth About Following Christ advocates “murderous war because our enemies are deadly.”

    Who says so? I dunno about you, but when I was a kid I sure as hell wasn't actively seeking something to die for! I was seeking a long and prosperous future! Growing up, if someone were to come to me with such a proposal as dying for a cause, I probably would have run the opposite direction.

    7.) “The right of holding slaves is clearly established in the Holy Scriptures, both by precept and example.” –R. Furman, Baptist, of South Carolina

    This one actually has some validity to it. However, from the context, I believe he is using it as an excuse to promote African-American slavery in America.

    8.) “Sex education classes in our public schools are promoting incest.” –Jimmy Swaggart

    I just have no words for this one... I can't tell you how many people I've known over the years that took sex-ed in school. NOT ONE of them lusted after their parents or siblings. Do people commit incest? Of course they do. Is sexual education to blame? Of course not!

    9.) “Nobody has the right to worship on this planet any other God than Jehovah. And therefore the state does not have the responsibility to defend anybody’s pseudo-right to worship an idol.” –Rev. Joseph Morecraft, Chalcedon Presbyterian Church, “Biblical Role of Civil Government” speech given 8/31/93 at Biblical Worldview and Christian Education Conference

    Where does it say that in the Bible? Yes, the first of the Ten Commandments states "Thou shalt not worship any other God above me." but God also created human beings as creatures of free will. That means you have EVERY right to worship another deity, and it is in fact your government's responsibility to defend that right! Our right to worship freely is not a pseudo-right... It's a God given right.

    10.) “When you know the LORD you have no need for masturbation.” –Brice Wellington

    This one had me laughing so hard that I was in tears. I knew the Lord for nineteen years while I was active in the church and guess what? I still had a need for masterbation AND intercourse. News flash: Knowing Jesus is not going to kill basic biological urges!

Comments

  1. Duchess-Yukine-Suoh
    More "Christianities"? Dude, most Christians know that these people are cracked. It's amazing that not everybody is an extremist, I know! It might blow your mind! I don't post things that bash you or your religion, that make extremists out of you! Why? Because I know the difference between a crazy extremist and a normal person! If you want to post these, that's fine, but PLEASE don't make it sound like all Christians are like this.

    I'll cite examples if you want me to explain why this sounds bad.

    ~Duchess
  2. Wreybies
    Though I understand and I am relieved to know that Duchess sees the ridiculousness and extremity of these statements, the disturbing truth of these events, a truth that should disturb any person of faith, is that these individuals are people of power within the religious complex, people whose voices are heard, and people who are rarely openly contradicted by others within the religious complex. Where is the example of someone of importance within the chains of power standing in front of the microphone saying, "While Mr. Wellington has every right to his opinion, his opinion on masturbation is completely whacked and does not represent me or my congregation. Matter of fact, I rubbed one out about an hour ago just to relieve the stress of this interview right here."

    Where is that voice at the mic?
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  3. Duchess-Yukine-Suoh
    "Though I understand and I am relieved to know that Duchess sees the ridiculousness and extremity of these statements"
    Thank you, I think!
    "Where is that voice at the mic?"
    It does need to be there, and I agree that that is needed (although perhaps not so frankly), but,
    a) if we're the majority, we shouldn't need to speak out, because we're the majority
    b) if it is, it doesn't make news, because if you haven't noticed, people who aren't crazy don't make the news.
  4. Pheonix
    This kind of stuff is the reason that people hate christianity... Fools with some supposed authority in corrupt organizations saying unbiblical things to promote their own idiotic ideas. If they just stuck to what it actually says in the Bible, things would be much different.
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  5. Wreybies
    Nope. That's not correct. The fact that the majority isn't speaking is why secular people have such a distorted and broken impression of the 'majority of Christians'. Duch, I have uncounted gay friends who hate all Christians, who assume, without asking or finding out, that Christians will hate them and be mean to them, say hateful things to them, etc. They don't give them a chance to prove otherwise. They are guilty of the very thing they say they are victim of and this is because 'the majority' isn't standing up and saying "We're not like that! Those few crazies you see on TV freak us out just as much as they freak you out!"

    It's just not happening. Two persons of prominence in the religious complex openly and public making statements of contradiction, one to the other, is the very definition of 'news-worthy' in America. ;)
  6. Duchess-Yukine-Suoh
    "Nope. That's not correct. The fact that the majority isn't speaking is why secular people have such a distorted and broken impression of the 'majority of Christians'. Duch, I have uncounted gay friends who hate all Christians, who assume, without asking or finding out, that Christians will hate them and be mean to them, say hateful things to them, etc. They don't give them a chance to prove otherwise. They are guilty of the very thing they say they are victim of and this is because 'the majority' isn't standing up and saying "We're not like that! Those few crazies you see on TV freak us out just as much as they freak you out!"

    I really haven't figured this quoting thing out yet....ahaha. And Duch is a cute nickname for me! I do enjoy telling people about myself and later, shocking them when they find out I'm a Christian, and a Catholic to boot. (I'm conservative about some things , but not a lot. ) But it's there, you know? 71% of mainstream Protestants are pro-gay marriage, compared with 75% of atheists (58% of Catholics too!). Even if some don't support it, they don't hate gay people. We do need to speak out, but saying "we aren't so it's null and void" isn't going to work. It'd be great if people in power spoke up, but they aren't. I'm not really in a position of power, but I object to reducing a whole group of people to a stereotype that isn't true, and I will continue to object, even if I'm not in a position of power, even if I can't change the whole world, I can still prove it isn't true, one person at a time! I may not get an interview, or be on TV or even be known to you people beyond a screen-name, but I can still try!
  7. Alesia
    Oh, I know all these people are whacked out of their minds. Our pastor even referred to Jimmy Swaggart a " no good, lying, frothing at the mouth heretic dog" back in the early 90's. But yes, there is a problem here and that is: These so-called "men of God" are the loudest voices Christianity has right now. They are on the TV, radio, all over the bookstores, and the internet. They are the face of the modern Church and sadly, nobody is willing to stand up to them publically.

    I posted this not so much as a bash against religion, but more as a primer on some of the crazy beliefs I grew up on. I've actually seen worse and I will discuss that in another post. If you notice, I ask the question multiple times "Where does it say that in the Bible?" because I know these men are spreading falsehood. They aren't preaching the Bible, they are preaching heresy.
  8. Duchess-Yukine-Suoh
    And if *your* pastor said that, then.....

    Yeah, it's sad. We need more Christian representation from non-crazy people and knowledge that not all Christians, or people of any religion, are like that.

    Wait, this was only an introduction? Well, this ought to be...interesting.

    Hey, I should blog about my crazy life! And we can be crazy life bloggers!
  9. Alesia
    The next one I wanted to go into the science aspect. Funny quotes like "Demons placed dinosaur bones on the Earth to trick scientists into believing they actually existed." I have to wonder if that is widespread theology and that is where Alice In Chains got the title for their record The Devil Created Dinosaurs. :p

  10. Duchess-Yukine-Suoh
    Did people actually believe that? I am concerned now.
  11. Alesia
    In one of my churches they did!
  12. Mackers
    There's nothing really to see here other than 10 quotes from nut-jobs?

    In your next blog, why don't you outline ten quotes from people like Pope Francis? I know he has some very interesting things to say about poverty, for example, which shows a caring and concern which is not evident in any of the quotes outlined here.

    I'm not even a practicing Christian, but you could use some balance here :)
  13. Alesia
    Sorry, this is not a blog of balanced opinions. I'll admit it: I don't care for the Christian religion. Besides drugs, it has been the single most destructive force in my life. Most "Christians" I know do not show caring and concern. They are out for themselves - their own agenda - and I've seen very little to prove me wrong over 30 years of church attendance. Like the description at the top of the page says, if you don't care for what I have to say, you have the option not to read my posts. I don't mean to sound harsh, but if you're looking for objectivity regarding religion, you've come to the wrong blog.
  14. Mackers
    It's kind of sad that you've had this bad experience with christianity. I am by no means religious, but I was brought up a catholic and my experience with catholicism is completely unlike the kind of stuff you've posted. That's fine if you want to write an unbalanced blog constantly bashing christianity...but what's the point?
  15. Alesia
    Like the description says, it's my outlet. It's people's choice whether or not they want to read what I have to say. It's kind of like asking what's the point behind writing a book like The God Delusion. Some people (Atheists) will love it. Others, namely Christians, will hate it. Nevertheless, it's there and if you disagree with what it has to say, you don't have to read it.
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